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ECC88 NOS TUBES
. Normal Ratings Maximum ratings
Europe
USA
Uf
If
(mA)

Gm
(Ma/V)

Rp
Ohm
Gain
Uf
(V)
Pa
(W)
Ug
(V)

Ua
(V)

Ia
mA

Ig,o
(uA)

Noise
(mV)
Uh-k. Heater to Cathode. Read below, how to connect the voltmeter. Eech test must be in between following limits:
ECC88

6DJ8

6,3V

365
.
.
.
.
1,8
-50
130
25
.
.
ok between +50 and -150 V

E88CC

6922
6,3V
300
.
.
.
.
1,5
-100
220
20
.
.
ok between +60 and -120 V
E188CC
7308
6,3V
335
.
.
.
.
1,65
-110
250
22
.
.
ok between +60 and -120 V
PCC88
7DJ8
7,0V
300
.
.
.
.
1,8
-50
130
25
.
.
ok between +80 and -180 V
6N1P
-
6,3V
600+/-50
.
.
.
5,5...7
2,2
.
300
20
1,0
100
ok between +100 and -250 V
6N1P-IV
-
6,3V
600+/-50
.
.
.
5,5...7
2,2
.
300
25
0.5
80
ok between +120 and -250 V
6N1P-EB
(=6N1P-EV)
-
6,3V
600+/-25
.
..
.
6...6.6
2,2
.
250
25
0.2
50
ok between +120 and -250 V
6N23P
-
6,3V
310+/-25
.
.
.

5,5...7

1,8
-200
300
20
0.2

150

ok between +150 and xxx V
6N23-EV
-
6,3V
310+/-25
..
.
.
6...6.6
2,0
-220
300
20
0.15
75
ok between +200and xxx V

6H30
=large
ECC88

-
6,3V
825
7,6
2000
15
.
4
.
400
40
.
.
.
Tube fraud: Unfortunally a big item particularly with this tube number. On internet auction sites, tubes are re-labelled, retro-gold plated, re-branded and used tubes are put in re-printed new boxes with the stamps ne-newed. It's an incredible mess at the moment. So you think you buy NOS, but they're not. Don't try to be Mr. Lucky on internet auction sites. They are waiting for you there. The most frauded tubes there are ECC83 and ECC88, because thes are practically unavailable as NOS tubes. Don't trust it when a sellers offers those repeatedly for low prices. This is not possible for ECC83 and ECC88. Buy only from reliable sources!

Special attention needed: This tube excist as normal grid tube and as frame grid tube. The frame grids have generally better parameter stability, lower noise and lower hum. These are the later technology, and also a technology only very few could make. Frame grid wires can be as thin as 10um, which is technologically speaking a masterpiece of fine mechanics. The frame grid wire is so thin, when you open up a defective tube, you can not see it with the bare eye. To give you an idea, the size of a large bacteria is 5um. When frame grid tubes, we write it in the description.

The Russians made very special quality grade 6N1P-EB. This is one of the finest ECC88 made, but these need twice the filament current, and have slightly lower gain. These have lower noise, and less distortion.

Is your ECC88 microphonic? Try the DUENDE tube rings we sell. This may help you more than changing tubes. The Duende dampers are GUARANTEED to give an audible improvement. We have Money-back guarantee on those. Also you should try the Svetlana types 6N1P. The ones we sell, are "EB", also when not specified like this, it's what they are.

Is your ECC88 humming or making noise? When no, then skip this text. Used tubes of this type generally have more hum and noise. In some cases the ECC88 is not used correct. Even with top-name ampplifier manufacturers we see sometimes mistakes, coming from not reading a datasheet. (reading datasheets CAREFULLY seems to be a "no no" amongst High End Amplifier manufacturers) Then it works with most of the tubes, but not with all, and users have to be swapping tubes all of the time, and desparately try to draw some conclusion from this. The next three boxes are a short overview of the most important thing to check, in case of a problem. Only do these measurements inside your amplifier, when you have experience with this. Leave it up to a technician otherwise.

Low Noise types: Use 6N1P-EB or original NOS Tesla E88CC gold grid version.

1) Heater to Cathode: (Called Uh-k)Test with DC Voltmeter: Red Lead Pin4, and Black lead on Pin3 and Pin8. (see llimits in above table). This is a very critical one, and can cause a good tube to get defective, or give hum, sparks or other noise, when exceeded.
2) Anode voltage: (Called Ua) Test with DC Voltmeter between Pin 1 and 3, and between Pin 6 and 8. (see limits in above table)
3) Filament voltage: (Called Uf)Test with Voltmeter between Pin 4 and 5. Set it on AC, and if nothing is read, set it on DC. (see limits in above table)

BIG QUESTION: WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ECC88 and E88CC? Here are the possible answers, only ONE answer is correct.

  1. E88CC is a High quality version of ECC88
  2. ECC88 is a low voltage tube, designed for 130V Plate. E88CC is designed for 250V plate which is more HiFi. This is done with diferent cathodes, and for that reason the tubes have different filament ratings.
  3. E88CC or ECC88, is the same! Some manufacturers do what they like with the part numbering system, such a shame.

If you don't know the answer.... Read this table from the beginning. Hehe ;)

Detailed Test report, comparing E88C JJ with TESLA NOS . Click here.
EHX new production 6922 under the microscope. Click here.

NOS Supply situation:

Not good. The only NOS that can be found still is Philips ECG, and Tesla. All others are gone, gone, gone. Folks, both TESLA and PHILIPS ECG are the finest NOS tubes you can buy at the moment, for a reasonable price. TESLA is even a frame grid tube!

 

How these tubes are tested

FAQ Frequently Asked Questions

Attention: This is an export Price List, valid for companies in the European Community with a VAT Identification number, and for companies or private persons outside the European Community.    Inside Europe,  please ask for a quote, including VAT tax. (The VAT rate is 16% until Dec31st. 2006, and after that 19%) 

Tube
 Date
 
 Condition
Qty.
EURO


E188CC

AEG

Enlarge image. Frame grid tube. AEG E188CC is a Special Quality ECC88.

NOS

original box

6
35,-
 
Mullard
  Frame grid tube. Gold pin tube. Nice clean print. Mullard, made in Great Brittain. Only sell the pair. (not a single tube)

NOS
original box

2
65,- each
 
Mullard
  Frame grid tube. Gold pin tube. Nice clean print. Mullard, made in Great Brittain. Only sell the pair. (not a single tube)

NOS
original box

2
65,- each
National
Frame grid tube. National, made in Yugoslavia. These have Philips construction

NOS
original box

6
20,-
Philips
With delta sign, for Philips Heerlen, Holland. (Heerlen was a major plant for high technology, buildings like a campus - I once visited them)
Used
2

20,-


6922
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Philips 
1986 
Frame grid tube.Perfect quality, good boxes. JAN tested, for higher reliability.  Made in USA. 

NOS
original box

Stock 
See pricelist 

enlarge
E88CC/6922 
RCA 
1980 
enlarge Frame grid tube. Perfect quality,  good boxes.  Datecode  8017 =1980/week17. On the tube glass is acid branded "made in USA" 

NOS
original box

55,- 
6DJ8 
Sylvania 
 1970 
 Frame grid tube.Nice green stamps. White box . Test good.
Used
3
10,- 
6DJ8 
Sylvania 
 1970 
 Frame grid tube.Nice green stamps. White box. Test very strong.
NOS 
2
25,- 

E88CC
Tesla 
 1965
Frame grid tube. Click for high resolution picture here. Gold Grid / Gold Pins. HQ tubes made for the Czech post, from the Prague factory (Code32) . Original blue boxes. These were made for the military, as you can see from the sword signs on the back side of the tube. This is probably the best ECC88 ever made. It is fully equivalent to the Telefunken ECC88 apart from the <> sign, and of course these TESLA have gold pins. For the rest every little detail is identical. Very good selected, and this batch has very high test values. These are no JJ Tubes. Read some more about TESLA TubesSupplied in BALANCED, MATCHED PAIRS. PRICE IS FOR A SINGLE TUBE.

NOS
original box

Order nr:
114-038

Stock

See nornal pricelist.


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E88CC 
Tesla 
1960 

Frame grid tube.Gold Pins.  Original boxes, blue-green box. Gold-pin version, for commercial use.

NOS
original box

6
34,-

E88CC
Tesla
1965

Enlarge picture. Frame grid tube. Normal Pins. HQ tubes made for the Czech post, from the Rosnov factory (Code37). From Bulk pack.  All from the same factory code. Very good selected, and this batch has very high test values. These are no JJ Tubes. Read some more about TESLA TubesSupplied in BALANCED, MATCHED PAIRS. PRICE IS FOR A SINGLE TUBE.

NOS

Order nr:
114-069

Stock

See nornal pricelist.

E88CC
Tesla
1965

Frame grid tube. Same as above. With good test value also, but these we could not match.

Tube#1 10.5 + 8mA
Tube#2 10.5 + 12mA
Tube#3 12.0 + 8mA
Tube#4 12.5 + 8mA

At Funke W19 , "good" starts at 6mA so these are all very strong.

NOS
4
16-
Amperex 
1970 
Frame grid tube.Made in Holland. White boxes.  Identical tube as above, but no print on them 
NOS 
20 
48,- 
Amperex 
1970 
Frame grid tube.Made in Holland. White boxes. Sorry, only one tube left.
Check also next item, below here. 
NOS 
1
65,- 

ECC8100 
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Telefunken 
1960..1970 
Frame Grid. Gold pin tubes.  Original boxes.  Tube nr 2 + 3 from the left, on the picturel This tube is something like ECC88, but ECC8100 is specially made for cascode circuits. Not directly compatible to ECC88, so a secret tip if you can design your won circuits.  
NOS
28,- 
ECC8100 
Telefunken 
1960..1970 
Frame Grid. White box.  Tube is offered as used, but may be new. Printing is fainted, but unburned, very white still.  Left tube on the picture
Used 
12,- 

Look here, the famous Hickok 539C used to cost 750$, 40 years ago
If we add 4% per year to that, for inflation, we talk about 5200$ now.

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