Lundahl Part Numbering System
for Tube Output transformers

When I started as a Lundahl distributer, I was confused with the many part numbers, and various ways to connect the transformers. And after I understood it, I found it so easy :) Perhaps the following information will help you to get started:

Here is how the Lundahl transformers are grouped:

  • Mains transformers and mains isolation transformers
  • Tube output transformers
  • Signal output transformers (includes tube interstage)
  • Signal Input transformers
  • Chokes for power supplies
  • Chokes for tube anodes (plates)

Size, core, and windings.

  • Miniature transformers (for digital inputs / CD Player). Example
  • Small size transformers, for DC-Free signals. Example
  • Medium size transformers. DC-Free or Single Ended. Example
  • Large size transformers. DC-Free or Single Ended. Example
  • Extra large size transformers. DC-Free or Single Ended. Example
  • Some are available as pre-wired types. Those have only one input impedance and one output impedance. Example
  • Some are available as multi impedance types. Those are highly recommended in case you change your speaker impedance (perhaps some day), or if you want to choose the primary impedance later, after hearing tests.The multi-impedance types have three input impedances and three output impedances, which gives many combinations, or wiring schemes, that are given in the datasheets. You don't need to understand how these work. Just pick the wiring scheme for your desired input impedance, and desired output impedance, and that's it. Going to higher impedance will give lower maximum output power, as you can see in the below table. Since tubes have the same effect, this matches nicely, and the power limitation will always be the tube, not the transformer. Example

Options

Starting from the medium size transformers, many are available in a few versions, with same price and dimensions.

  • "SE" for Single ended.All types are basically the same, apart from the maximum DC current. We encourage you not to over-rate the DC current. Lundahl has already 15% hidden headroom in the DC Current specification, plus additional margin is included in that to allow maximum AC signal, and still have the 15%. So all SE transformers will work distortion-free at maximum signal, and the maximum DC current at the same time. For the rest, all SE types of one part number are all the same. So you will have LL1623/90, LL1623/120, etc. These are the same apart from the DC current and Inductance.
  • "PP" for Push-Pull. With very small airgap to allow 15% DC component for tube imbalance.
  • "PPZ". This option changes any PP transformer in a parafeed. (or for signal output applications). These have zero airgap, and roughly twice the inductance. Some special parafeed transformers don't have the "PPZ" added, because these are parafeed by definition
  • "CFB". This transformer type has an extra winding for the cathode feedback.

Secret Tip

  • I had this confirmed by Per Lundahl several times. All power chokes can be used as plate chokes or vice versa. The powes chokes are wound on HiFi core material, and winding technique is the same. So a plate choke like LL1668/25mA is a wonderfull power choke too, for instance in a phono amplifier where you work with 25mA only, and it gives you a few hundred (!) Henry.

Selection table (below)

  • This shows how to use the tables like this, which you will find in each datasheet. Follow the points in this order: 1, 2, 3 and you have the connection scheme you need. So in the example the line Nr 3 shows to "D" in the middle of the word C/D/E. Scheme "D" is in the datasheet of course. Check here for full data sheet example.

This drawing is only for your interest, when some people want to understand how SE and PP transformers are made with the same windings package, and same impedances in the datasheet. Seting impedance and making the connections though should be done by the datasheet.

Download this very handy Excel program, to check the low frequency reponce of a Lundahl transformer. Excel program here

Hint: If you have no Excel, you should install "openoffice" from openoffice.org That will run Excel, MSWORD, all the latest versions, legally and for free.

 

1) Some examples of Guitar Amplifier Applications, with estimated performance

Design hint for Guitar amps: Choose Ra (Raa) of transformer closer to the tubes. The closer you get, the more output power, and the higher the distortion at full power is possible. Such amps that can distort a lot, are not the most ideal for relatively "clean" sound. When the output power is mainly limited by the output transformer, heavy distortion is possible which doesn't sound agressive. For aggressive distortion, take the transformer a bit larger, so to make sure the distortion is mainly by the tubes. Do not start with the tubes, and try to find a transformer for them. Better is, to start with the transformer, and change the tubes and bias settings, until you get the sound you desire. For heavy distorted sound, you are advised to have speaker, tubes, and transformer all in the same power range. So take a 50Watt transformer, a pair of tubes that delivers maximum 50 Watt at the electrical settings, and a 50Watt speaker. If you overdimension one of the three, distortion will be achieved mainly by the other two. For the rest, TRIAL AND ERROR is what you need here, to adapt this to your personal needs. This relates to end-stage distortion only, any pre-amp distortion is additional of course.

 

Tube

PP /SE

Transformer

Order Nr
Secondary

Output
power

Remarks
2x EL84

PP

218-104-74
8 Ohms
15 Watt
Relatively clean sound
2x6L6
PP
218-105-69
4 Ohms
35 Watt
Moderate distortion possible
2x 6550
PP

LL1664PP

218-103-77
8 Ohms
50 Watt
Very crunchy distortion possible
4xEL84
PP

LL1664PP

218-103-77
8 Ohms
30 Watt

Moderate distortion possible

2x EL34
PP

LL1664PP

218-103-77
8 Ohms
50 Watt

Heavy distortion possible

 

2) Some examples of HiFi Applications, with estimated performance

Click here for External Link, with Circuit Diagram Suggestions

Line
Tube

PP /SE

Plate voltage
refers to Cathode voltage

Tube Anode
Impedance

Transformer

Order Nr
Induction
Ra
Secondary

Output
power

Low Freq.
Response
1.5dB

Information
1
1605

SE

110mA@580V
861 Ohms
LL1623-120mA
218-111-49
24H
3k
Alt.B = 4 Ohms
Alt.C = 8 Ohms
Alt.D = 16 Ohms
20 Watt
16Hz
Special tube by EML
2
2x 1605
PSE
220mA@580V
430 Phms

LL1623-220mA

Custom made. Price is same as normal LL1623

13H
1k6
Alt.C = 4 Ohms
Alt.D = 8 Ohms
Alt.E = 16 Ohms
40 Watt
15Hz
Special tube by EM
3

2A3
2A3-mesh
AD1

SE
60mA @250V
800 Ohms
LL1623-060mA
218-109-00
46H
3k

Alt.B = 4 Ohms
Alt.C = 8 Ohms
Alt.D = 16 Ohms

3.5 Watt
8Hz
4
2A3
2A3-mesh
AD1
SE

60mA @250V

800 Ohms
LL1664-060mA
218-134-09
29H
3k
8 Ohms
3.5 Watt
12Hz
5

2x 2A3
2x 2A3-mesh
2x AD1

PSE

each tube
60mA @250V

400 Ohms
LL1627-140mA
218-107-95
12H
1k2
Alt.B = 4 Ohms
Alt.C = 8 Ohms
Alt.D = 16 Ohms
7 Watt
11Hz
6
2A3-S
SE
75mA @ 375V
745 Ohms
LL1623-090mA
218-110-72
30H
3k
Alt.B = 4 Ohms
Alt.C = 8 Ohms
Alt.D = 16 Ohms
9 Watt
5Hz
Special tube by EML
7
2x 2A3-S
PSE
each tube
75mA @ 375V
373 Ohms
LL1627-185mA
218-108-27
9H

1k2

Alt.B = 4 Ohms
Alt.C = 8 Ohms
Alt.D = 16 Ohms
20 Watt
10Hz
Special tube by EML
8
20B
SE
42mA @420V
3k4
LL2735B-42mA
218-143-29
17H
16k
8 Ohms
20 Watt

19Hz

Special tube by EML
9
300B-mesh
SE

60mA@365V

700 Ohms
LL1664-060mA
218-134-09
29H
3k
8 Ohms
7Hz
Special tube by EML

10

 

300B-mesh
SE
60mA@365V
700 Ohms
LL1623-060mA
218-109-00
46H
3k
Alt.B = 4 Ohms
Alt.C = 8 Ohms
Alt.D = 16 Ohms
7 Watt
3Hz
Special tube by EML
11
300B
SE
80mA@400V
790 Ohms
LL1623-090mA
218-110-72
30H
3k
Alt.B = 4 Ohms
Alt.C = 8 Ohms
Alt.D = 16 Ohms
5Hz
12
300B-XLS
SE
80mA@450V
700 Ohms
LL1664-080mA
218-135-90
22H
3k
Alt.B = 4 Ohms
Alt.C = 8 Ohms
Alt.D = 16 Ohms
15 Watt
5Hz
Special tube by EML
13
300B-XLS
SE
80mA@450V
700 Ohms
LL1623-090mA
218-110-72
30H
3k
Alt.B = 4 Ohms
Alt.C = 8 Ohms
Alt.D = 16 Ohms
15 Watt
5Hz
Special tube by EML
14
300B-XLS
SE
110mA@457V
670 Ohms
LL1623-120mA
218-251-91
23H
3k
Alt.B = 4 Ohms
Alt.C = 8 Ohms
Alt.D = 16 Ohms
20 Watt
7Hz
Special tube by EML
15
45
SE
34mA @250V

1750 Ohms

LL1620-040mA
218-113-97
35H
3k3
8 Ohms

3.5 Watt

8Hz
16
45
SE
36mA @275V

1670 Ohms

LL1663-050mA

218-131-76
35H
5k
8 Ohms

3.5 Watt

8Hz
17
45-Mesh
SE
36mA @250V

1750 Ohms

LL1663-050mA
218-131-76
35H
5k
8 Ohms

3.5 Watt

8Hz
18
45-Mesh
SE
34mA @250V

1750 Ohms

LL1663-050mA
218-131-76
35H
5k
8 Ohms

3.5 Watt

8Hz
 
19
45-Mesh
SE
34mA @250V

1750 Ohms

LL1663-050mA
218-131-76
35H
5k
8 Ohms

3.5 Watt

8Hz
20
45-Mesh
SE
34mA @250V

1750 Ohms

LL1664-050mA
218-131-76
35H
5k
8 Ohms

3.5 Watt

8Hz
21
50
SE
55mA @450V

1800 Ohms

LL1679-055mA
Custom made. Price is same as normal LL1679
51H
4k3
Alt.B = 4 Ohms
Alt.C = 8 Ohms
Alt.D = 16 Ohms

4.3 Watt

16Hz

 



The Lundahl MC Cookbook


Is it difficult to design your own MC transformer box? No!

Here is a screenshot from the LUNDAL MC cookbook. This is not a printed book, but these are a few pages of information, you get on CD. It tells you the basics of how to design your own MC Transformer, and it has also an Excel program for some calculations.

Attention! The below is a PICTURE only. When you order the MC transformer cookbook, it is on the CD as well. This Excel program is in German and in English, the MC cookbook is in English. The order number + price you find in the prcielist.



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